TDK 1280B DVD Writer
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TDK 1280B OEM:Lite-On Chipset:Mediatek |
48xCDR CAV 24xCDRW ZCLV 8xDVD-R ZCLV 4xDVD-RW CLV 12xDVD+R ZCLV 4xDVD+RW CLV |
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| GREAT TECH SUPPORT The burning at 2.4x max problem described in my previous run-on post, per toll free (short wait) polite, helpful, don't ask a lot of dumb questions techs, is because the drive has to be on a 40 wire IDE cable (not an 80 conductor EIDE Ultra 66/100/133 cable (frequently misdescribed as an 80 PIN cable). The otherwise excellent documentation does not cover this except as mentioned above - IMHO, should have been printed on a READ ME FIRST errata sheet... This forces the drive down to UDMA2 vs UDMA 4, and solves the "communication problem", allowing the drive to burn at 8x (on CMC made Memorex brand 8x+R - haven't tried my 1 TDK 8x+R to see if it will burn at the claimed 12x, but with the blank in the drive, software sees the 12x write speed). Setting write speed to "Optimal" rather than 8x or 4x is recommended in conjunction with enabling buffer underrun protection. Drive does not read any of my discs at the rated 12x, closer to 9.8x or so - about 10 MB /sec, but not a big deal, may be my system, hence a comment here instead of an email challenging the read spec. Roxio Creator Classic portion of bundled ver 6.2 works as expected and has reasonably good context sensitive help; see prev post for more on the software. Claimed 70,000 hour MTBF, suggesting that rumour that Plextor makes the drives for TDK is true. Black face plate if anyone cares. Rating reflects failure to figure out cable/UDMA mode problem in time to avoid misleading discussion in printed manual of using cable select jumpering (doesn't work on 40 conductor IDE cables), and failure to include errata sheet instead of burying the info in the 2nd CD. Otherwise, at this point, it would be a 10. EZCD isn't my favorite (I'll probably go back to Nero Ultra 6), but this is the best version of EZCD I have ever seen bundled with a drive (ver 6.2.0.134, same as the current Platinum version. (But beware the downer upgrade - check your version ##, else you'll be force fed an incompatible "update" to 5.1.something) Comments posted by Kendall from United States, July 14, 2004. Rated this writer 9 of 10. |
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| Just got this at CompUSA ($169 USD) for the $25 I paid for the TAP replacement plan on an IOMagic 4x +/- I got in 9/03 (it developed HARDWARE ERROR - TRACKING SERVO FAILURE orsomething to that effect, and became useless - poss due to F/W upgrade to 2.30?). PROS: 1) Claimed 70,000 hours MTBF (I've been told Plextor makes all the TDK drives - they are the only drives I recall seeing an MTBF spec on); 2) EXCELLENT PRINTED DOCUMENTATION for H/W install & tshooting, and for bundled ROXIO EZ (to hate) 6.2.0.134 (NOTE: version # is not a typo - even tho registry and Roxupdate etc ID as "Basic" flavor, v.# matches Platinum update v.# as of 7/11/04) - such phenomenal info as a list of file types (avi, vob, etc.) that can be used in DVD Builder app to roll your own compilation (I know this should be unworthy of comment, but since almost no PC software comes with printed documentaion, or if it does, it is as useless as the help screens it is printed from, hence it counts in my world). I've used prev. EZCD (3,4,5,6.1.x) and learned a few important things about 6.2 from the documentation. 3) The software shipped with the drive worked out of the box and did NOT require updating (except for, ironically, the drive table recognition of the hardware, and (see below), the ASPI layer (running NT5 aka W2K SP 4 + "SP5" in hotfix form) to 4.71 from 4.60/4.45 (as installed, EZCD put wnaspi32.dll v. 4.45 in its SharedCOM directory - I force fed a copy of first 4.60 then, last night, 4.71 to that directory since it appears s/w was using the dll in that dir, not from O/S system dir). 4) TDK allegedly has toll-free free phone support to techs at TDK offices in U.S. (phone # well concealed in documentation, am calling later today for unresolved issues). 5) 1 yr P&L/replacement ltd. warranty 6) Allegedly burns at 12x on TDK 8x media. CONS: 1) Only 2 MB cache, appears to be serious speed limiting factor based on usage with EZCD 6.2 as shown by progress bars (NOTE: my 4x IOMagic aka Dong Guan aka Top G had 8 MB and would in fact burn at 4x on Asus TUA266 BIOS 1004.10, Celeron III 1.0A GHz w/ 512 MB CAS2 DDR on 100 MHz FSB, Maxtor DM9+ 120 GB/114GB EIDE HD w/ 8 MB cache, UDMA 6/Ultra133 on Maxtor/Promise Ultra 133 TX2 card (33MHz PCI bus) w/ latest driver) All current 8x burners in this price range seem to have only 2MB, I doubt that my 4x had 8MB for no reason, suspect that 8MB is needed for anything over 2.4x altho some people apparently have had diff results (I know my system isn't state of the art, but it exceeds the min HW specs for the drive by a fair bit). 2) ASPI layer update should have been suggested by installer and flagged in documentation - DVDInfoPro was showing the drive as ATA-3 capable until I updated to ASPI 4.71, then showed it as ATA-50 (as I recall, ATA-50 is inexplicably the same as UDMA 4, not UDMA 5 as a sane person might expect) - I believe that Adaptec suggests that 4.60 is incapable of detecting/supporting beyond ATA-3 in the notes on the 4.71 download, consistent with my results). 3) Because reg. entries etc. ID S/W as Basic flavor, the unsuspecting will destroy their S/W installation if they allow the web updates to be installed (whether obtained automatically during install or later - been there, did that, had to nuke the install (W2K had recognized the drive and installed its drivers and was happy as a clam per Device Mangler until I "updated" the software down to the b-tdized lessed version, at which point Device Mangler reported that the drive didn't work because the drivers couldn't be installed (! go Redmond, no soup for you). Vaguely recalling the same problem w/ Roxio installs in the past, and what finally was required to un-pooch things, I beat all into submission as follows:I "uninstalled" the drive in device mangler, manually clobbered all registry entries pertaining to it, nuked the EZCD install (before I installed it, I had already nuked Nero 6, Pinnacle, and Roxio v 6.1 into oblivion), then allowed W2K to rediscover the drive, reinstall its 3 drivers w/out complaining that it couldn't do so, (this is important, I believe:) then told Device Mangler to DISABLE the drive, rebooted, confirmed drive showed disabled, used a different drive to reinstall EZCD from bundled CD, then after installing (this time to the default directories, I had forgotten that Roxio software never works if you accept the invite to change the install directory to something other than the convoluted default), only then did I have Device Mangler reenable the drive, and now, finally, I could burn again - BUT 4) Only at 2.4-2.8x, as shown by estimated write speed bar and manual timing of burn from HD dir containing video_ts dir w/ about 2.6GB - about a 1 hour DVD (HD has sustained read throughput in excess of 13 MB/sec, benchmarks with typical s/w info tools at 26-50+ MB/sec), using TDK approved CMC 8x +R media (is it real or is it Memorex? No, its CMC in Memorex branding). 5) Despite documentaion to contrary, no UI for setting software cache size - it's 10 MB, max cache size setting only used if multiple burners employed simultaneously. Found the registry setting and crammed 100 MB in as the value for min cache size 6) According to the drive analysis info from bundled s/w, drive read speeds are no where near what is claimed - ltd testing so far shows max real world read is about 4-5x DVD, using just burned (i.e., no scratches or fingerprints) disc. No rating yet because it would be thumbs down if this is as good as it gets, but I'm hoping that further testing w/ min cache size set higher by force, and whatever TDK tech support has to offer, it'll be closer to 10 (hope this is helpful to you all, as I'm now probably too late to reach TDK by phone today :\) ) Call it reinvesting in the user community - this forum has been a great help to me in my efforts to get up to speed on this stuff. Stay tuned for more news as it happens Kendall Comments posted by Kendall from United States, July 12, 2004. Rated this writer No rating. |
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Column Explanation:  Click on this for
more technical information.New comments= New comments since your last visit. New Writer = New DVD Writer since your last vist. OEM Original Equipment Manufacturer. Chipset The manufacturer of the main chipset the DVD writer/recorder is based on. Write support / Read support DVD-R = Works DVD-R? = Not tested Single Layer(4.7GB) write speeds 1x (CLV) = about 58 minutes 2x (CLV) = about 29 minutes 2.4x (CLV) = about 24 minutes 4x (CLV) = about 14.5 minutes 6x (CLV/ZCLV) = about 10-12 minutes 8x (PCAV/ZCLV) = about 8-10 minutes 12x (PCAV/ZCLV) = about 6.5-7.5 minutes 16x (CAV/ZCLV) = about 6-7 minutes Dual/Double Layer(8.5GB) write speeds 1x CLV = about 105 minutes 2.4x CLV = about 44 minutes 4x CLV = about 27 minutes Single Layer (4.7GB) read speeds 1x read speed is 1.321MB/s = ~56 minutes 6x CAV (avg. ~4x) read speed is max 7.93MB/s = ~14 minutes 8x CAV (avg. ~6x) read speed is max 10.57MB/s = ~10 minutes 12x CAV (avg. ~8x) read speed is max 15.85MB/s = ~7 minutes 16x CAV (avg. ~12x) read speed is max 21.13MB/s = ~5 minutes DVD Write types CAV = Constant Angular Velocity, the DVD is written at a constantly increasing speed. CLV = Constant Linear Velocity, the DVD is written at a constant speed. ZCLV = Zone Constant Linear Velocity, the DVD is divided into zones. After each zone the write speed is increased. PCAV = Partial Constant Angular Velocity, the DVD is being written at an increasing speed until a certain speed. After this speed it will not increase anymore. Connection Desktop = Standalone desktop DVD Recorder EIDE = Computer DVD Writer with EIDE/IDE connection SCSI = Computer DVD Writer with SCSI connection USB = Computer desktop DVD Writer with USB 2.0 or/and 1.1 connection FireWire = Computer desktop DVD Writer with IEEE 1394/FireWire/i.Link connection (some standalone desktop dvd recorder supports this also but then it is usually to connect your DV camera to the recorder) Rating The first rating is based on a weighted rank (the true Bayesian), it requires at least 5 votes to get a weighted rating. The second rating between the ( ) is a normal average rating. |
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